135 00:14:31.380 --> 00:14:39.230 Aliraj Rehmani: This is Ali Raj Ravani, interviewing Owen Sullivan for the position of systems. Administrator at Amazon. Aws 136 00:14:40.040 --> 00:14:41.630 Aliraj Rehmani: Hello, Owen, how are you? 137 00:14:42.700 --> 00:14:44.460 Owen Sullivan: I'm doing great. How about yourself? 138 00:14:44.480 --> 00:14:58.180 Aliraj Rehmani: I'm doing wonderful Now I'm going to have a few questions for you, and then we'll get on to more technical questions. and then you can have the opportunity to ask me any questions you or concerns you may have regarding this position. 139 00:14:59.430 --> 00:15:00.450 Owen Sullivan: That sounds great. 140 00:15:00.550 --> 00:15:03.220 Aliraj Rehmani: perfect. Well, then let's start with. 141 00:15:03.370 --> 00:15:11.360 Aliraj Rehmani: Why did you apply for this position? Was there something as specific in this job advertisement that drew you 142 00:15:11.750 --> 00:15:13.120 Aliraj Rehmani: that you your attention? 143 00:15:14.710 --> 00:15:20.820 Owen Sullivan: So I applied for the physician, because, you know, I'm very experienced in the this admin 144 00:15:20.890 --> 00:15:25.490 role, and I wanted to go on to something a bit more. 145 00:15:25.770 --> 00:15:44.610 Owen Sullivan: you know, tightly organized. I've worked for a lot of smaller companies and aws is by far one of the largest systems administration platforms in the world, and so I think that a more tightly integrated, more fast-paced environment might be a good change of pace for me. 146 00:15:45.020 --> 00:15:48.300 Aliraj Rehmani: right? I can definitely understand where you, coming from? 147 00:15:50.700 --> 00:15:59.260 Aliraj Rehmani: Our next question is, what would you like to learn, or what skills would you like to develop as you continue to work here with us within your first year. 148 00:16:00.830 --> 00:16:16.540 Owen Sullivan: So I am conceptually very familiar with the products and services that Aws offers. But I have very little experience actually working with them. And you know, like, I said, if i'm moving on to a more fast-paced environment such as Aws 149 00:16:16.540 --> 00:16:21.150 and I think that is a perfect opportunity for me to become more familiar with 150 00:16:21.270 --> 00:16:33.860 Owen Sullivan: the products and services that Aws offer, because there are so so many of them. and that could help me both at Aws as well as down the road in my personal development, because 151 00:16:34.030 --> 00:16:39.890 Owen Sullivan: so many other organizations rely on Aws services, and knowing them, is a very valuable skill. 152 00:16:40.300 --> 00:16:47.200 Aliraj Rehmani: We are very lucky to have a quite a lot wide members, wide variety of team members. 153 00:16:47.210 --> 00:16:52.640 Aliraj Rehmani: and so many different sections which you can refer to for various help. 154 00:16:54.540 --> 00:17:03.390 Aliraj Rehmani: And Here's our last of the general questions. What would you do if your member Mits, our manager, assigned you to a past? You did not know how to vote. 155 00:17:05.099 --> 00:17:17.530 Owen Sullivan: So I like to think that I can be pretty good at solving problems independently. I think I would. you know, give it a little while. Try to come up with a solution myself that can include, You know. 156 00:17:17.550 --> 00:17:30.900 Owen Sullivan: online research. If I have any close coworkers, you know, right here next to me, then, bouncing my ideas off them. But if it's becoming clear after a little bit, that i'm not going to make any progress on this just by myself, then 157 00:17:31.040 --> 00:17:38.870 Owen Sullivan: I would certainly start to get in contact with people more familiar with what I'm. Working with people who have been to the organization longer. 158 00:17:38.940 --> 00:17:42.200 and especially if i'm working with an Aws service that 159 00:17:42.210 --> 00:17:55.010 Owen Sullivan: doesn't pertain exactly to the scope of my role. Then I would try to seek out people who work with that service or product on a daily basis, because i'm sure they'd be more knowledgeable about it. 160 00:17:55.630 --> 00:18:05.910 Aliraj Rehmani: Yes, we always support reaching out to your fellow co-workers reaching out for using our wide variety of team members, as I mentioned before, always great to utilize what we offer. 161 00:18:06.720 --> 00:18:09.430 Aliraj Rehmani: And here are the technical questions. 162 00:18:10.110 --> 00:18:12.450 Aliraj Rehmani: Let's say you're stuck on a coding problem. 163 00:18:13.110 --> 00:18:21.860 Aliraj Rehmani: What would you do if we in this situation do you go to your superior, us, your you work by yourself. What would you do 164 00:18:23.310 --> 00:18:33.270 Owen Sullivan: so. I like to spend a little bit of time like I said, on a problem before I start seeking out external human resources. 165 00:18:33.320 --> 00:18:44.950 Owen Sullivan: I definitely, you know, I spend a lot of time trying to find examples such as open source code, or maybe other code within our internal source. 166 00:18:45.020 --> 00:18:56.920 Owen Sullivan: That sort of accomplishes what i'm trying to do. See if I can make it work to fit my needs, or see if I can use it as inspiration to come up with a conceptual solution that I can later implement. 167 00:18:57.140 --> 00:19:14.890 Owen Sullivan: But I would definitely look for a supervisor's help. you know, before too long I wouldn't give it more than a few hours if I'm truly, truly stuck, because you know, I want to make sure that my management knows that i'm staying on top of something that I actually am thinking about it. And 168 00:19:15.130 --> 00:19:21.400 Owen Sullivan: besides, there's there's no point in staring at Google forever. So that's definitely what I would do. 169 00:19:21.720 --> 00:19:26.760 Aliraj Rehmani: Yes, it's a fast-paced environment, and you definitely don't want to get caught up 170 00:19:26.880 --> 00:19:31.950 Aliraj Rehmani: when you don't understand something best to reach out before you get stuck in the mine. Sure. 171 00:19:32.630 --> 00:19:38.790 Aliraj Rehmani: And could. Our last question for today is, could you describe your personal debugging process? 172 00:19:40.270 --> 00:20:02.280 Owen Sullivan: Sure. So I must admit that i'm not terribly familiar with a lot of popular debugging tools I've sort of come up with the process of. I like to trace the operations of whatever I am working on. You know. One step at a time. Start at the very beginning, start seeing what works, what doesn't, and 173 00:20:02.630 --> 00:20:12.980 Owen Sullivan: just try to come up with unit tests that work well to see. You know, whatever little changes I make here and there. How do these affect the results of the unit test? 174 00:20:13.270 --> 00:20:25.240 Owen Sullivan: And then, if at that point i'm not making any progress. Then i'll start working with the more complicated debugging tools. or same as the last one start getting in contact with people who might be more familiar with us. 175 00:20:26.890 --> 00:20:28.780 Aliraj Rehmani: That's a great approach. 176 00:20:30.130 --> 00:20:32.200 Aliraj Rehmani: Do you have any questions for us. 177 00:20:33.120 --> 00:20:42.530 Owen Sullivan: Sure, Just a couple. So the first is, what is aws's policy these days on working from home versus in person at the office 178 00:20:42.970 --> 00:20:54.380 Aliraj Rehmani: at Aws, we allow each team to decide how often they work from home. based on the requirements of the job as of right now. I can't speak directly 179 00:20:54.440 --> 00:21:04.760 Aliraj Rehmani: for your team in particular, if you'd like, I can reach out to them and get some more information, and then reach out back to 180 00:21:06.010 --> 00:21:26.160 Owen Sullivan: perfect. Well, then, if if you're going to be able to get me in contact with some other people. Then I think what i'll ask them that they could probably answer it pretty well for me is, you know how the stress level work with system, administration roles, aws. But I would. I would absolutely appreciate if you could get me in contact with some other folks there. 181 00:21:26.480 --> 00:21:31.470 Aliraj Rehmani: Yes, of course I will get back to you soon in regards to that. 182 00:21:32.650 --> 00:21:39.140 Aliraj Rehmani: Thank you so much. Thank you, Owen. I look. I hope to see you here soon. 183 00:21:40.170 --> 00:21:43.110 Aliraj Rehmani: Thank you. Have a good day.